I know what it is that I'm looking for, though it took me a while to understand it.
What I don't understand is why it is that it is SO shocking that a woman can be a Christian and a submissive at the same time.
Oh wait, yes I do.
Because "Christian" often means religious.
Because "submissive" is often seen as a darkness.
This is bullshit.
I'm going to tell you why.
ALL women were created with a purpose.
GEN 2: 20
20 - But for Adam no suitable helper was found
21 - So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, He took one of the mans ribs and closed up the place with flesh.
22 - Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 - The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh' she shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man."
Now, there is a meme running around, and it goes like this,
Woman was made from the rib of a man, not from his head to top him, nor his foot to be stepped on by him, but from his side to be equal to him, under his arm to be protected by him, and near his heart to be loved by him"
I'm going to go ahead and amend that, with
Of his bone to be strong for him, over his heart to protect him also.
why?
Because the RIGHT man will earn this from her.
I come on Fet, and it's flesh.
I go on cupid or pof, and its ignorance, weakness, arrogance, and a thousand other things.
I will not be unequally yoked.
I will not be other than who I am.
How is it that a Christian woman can want and hold her mate to a standard of a true Dominant?
Let's look at that Bible again shall we?
And I shall make for him an help meet
meet - equal, mate
Wives, submit to your husbands, ......
Husbands, submit to your wives
No Dominant worth his salt does not submit to the internal needs of his submissive.
What do I expect from my mate?
I expect him to be strong an secure in himself, because if he is not, how can he ever be strong enough for me to lean on, let alone enough to uplift me?
This means spirutally, emotionally, mentally, worldly, and physically.
I expect him to be morally sound
Because I can not submit undeservedly.
I expect him to EARN my trust
Because I can not submit naturally unless I am solidly sure of his solidarity.
I expect him to respect me himself and me
Because I can not give to him what he does not have, and give
I expect him to KNOW me
Because I can not trust what does not know me
I expect him to accept me as I am
Because I have a hard enough time trusting that anyone other than God and sometimes myself will, and if he can't, then why should I trust him?
I could go on and on and on and on.... and maybe I'll do an edit to add to it later.
The POINT is, this is WHY both genders are SCREWED in todays world.
MEN have forgotten how to be WORTHY MEN.
WOMEN have forgotten HOW to submit, because she has not known a man WORTH SUBMITTING TO on a core level.
I was raised with a hybrid wolf pack for the first 6 years of my life, a part of my life that I am only recently beginning to be open about.
Yes I had a family, as well.
My dad raised hybrids, even before I was born, so the day that I came home from the hospital, I was introduced to my "brothers, sisters, babysitters, attendants, family"
The creatures man knows and the creatures I know, and mourn, are not the same. Even the "scientific journals" on the subject are something to be laughed at, mans attempt to understand a creature through mans eyes.
Men, you are not the dominant species on this planet. Because what I see is a bunch of narcissistic bullies full of insecurity. I might be wrong about a few of you, but this a dominant does not make.
You have to LEARN dominance, and most of you never do.
Wolvs simply ARE.
Men, your women don't submit to you because you are NOT entitled to it, and you don't EARN it.
It was a command given to Adam, not you that have lost your way.
It was Adams by right, and there was never a doubt in Eve's mind, because he was still at that time as God had created him, and WORTHY of it.
Now, my take on this...
Due to the first 6 years of my life (remember, where your personality is shaped), experience, and the left over teachings and truth of a long dead wolf pack...
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Meet Kamots (and the character, spirit, and heart of the man I'm looking for) ....https://www.livingwithwolves.org/portfolio/the-alph…
Now read this:
A conversation with someone from Cupid that puts a little hope in my outlook, ONE of you gets it.
"I have to ask. Just how serious are you about the whole Wolfpack and hybrid stuff? Because I have to say...I'm starting to find it a little scary. If you truly believe that people actually become part animal, if you truly believe that wolves are the dominant species...this makes me worry very much. The Wolfpack stuff makes for an interesting twist to bdsm and poly lifestyle, but...actual hybrids...not so much. And wolves, as well as bears, sharks...every predator on land or in the sea have to learn to be dominant as well. There isn't a single predatory animal that doesn't learn how to be such from it's parents. And man (as in humans are the Master's of all) you seem to have studied the bible, so you should know that. What makes men specifically dominant is biology. Basic biology makes men more inclined to be dominant and females more inclined to be submissive. Can boil it right down to testosterone and estrogen. That said, dominance is nothing. Anyone can be dominant, but dominance and aggression don't make you a quality leader. For that there has to be balance. Jesus was the most powerful man to ever walk the earth, but that's not what he showed people...he showed wisdom, patience, selfless service. Jesus was the epitome of what an "alpha male" is. Put that in quotes because I actually can't stand the term alpha male. Mostly because pretty much anyone that describes themselves as having an "alpha personality", are actually the weakest most insecure people. There's no one more insecure than a narcissist."
MY response:
"How serious am I about the wolf thing as in? What I mean when I post that there is personal qualities. And it's exactly BECAUSE of your statement about narcissistic "alpha type" men, which a dominant does not make.
Notice that Kamots' main personality traits were care, benevolence, a free spirit, and almost no agression in his leadership, genuine concern and attentiveness, but strength should a situation or circumstance call for it, without self doubt, and at peace with himself.
THIS a true alpha makes.
No do you do not become part wolf, they can become a part of you emotionally the same way that any human with a strong bond to another human becomes a part of you, but i am certainly not a nut and the last time I had one of those I'm part werewolf crazies speak to me i was so offended I wanted to be like, ok bitch, let's take it out to the woods and hash it out your style. Not literally, but you get my drift.
I guarantee you that I could show him a few things here and there on why his nut brain needs to change, and fast.
Balance with benevolence and compassion, and power without the desire to use it in the ways that man often does, is exactly what MAKES one dominant and alpha.
What I didn't expect was for you to understand this.
I know what i was taught, by living with them, and knowing them. Which is why I have a bit of bitterness to "alpha type" men (the narcissistic weak ones) and generally tend to mix like oil and water with them.
Because I was raised to seek out those personality traits that make a true alpha in a mate, and this, in my view, pretender bullshit leaves a sour taste in my mouth so to speak.
I know it comes off as odd, crazy, to the average reader. How do you explain something like this to them though? You did a better job than I did, because what you understand is probably in a more logical way, while what I understand is in emotional memory, instinct, and the formation of my personality at its earliest stage, something far more subconscious than I understood how to articulate. I was trying to make the point, you put it into better worded type.
Side note - you understanding and being able to articulate that you get that its the moral core of a man that makes him an alpha, well, you've garnered my respect. YOU might not see it so much but as a woman, raised to seek those qualities, and presented these narcissistic weak men, well...... you're looking for strawberries and all you see is fish.
You get my drift."
It is true, that girls look to their fathers when deciding who to mate.
I bonded more with Max, who was very very close in personality to Kamots here, than I did my own father. I learned more from him about honor, and sacrifice, and love, and acceptance, and strength, and intimacy (not sexual intimacy, the intimacy of knowing another so well that you know them inside, in the moment, at a glance, you know what every look means, every facial tick, body movement, physical aspect of stance, etc means, says, and doesn't say.)
But I learned from my father as well, who had to hold the Alpha position in that pack or they would have turned on him, as many hybrids do with their owners. THAT is why you hear stories of people owning hybrids and being killed. Because a pack won't submit to a weak man who owns them just because he likes an exotic pet.
Being as it was that I was born and became a part of the family, what happens if my father does not teach me to deal with them on their terms? I'm small, weaker physically than they are, a toddler, and easily short work of full grown adult hybrids.
I'm a dead child, thats what.
So yes, the man in the conversation above is right. I don't make your typical submissive.
Because I was also taught that no self respecting alpha female will submit to a weak omega.
If I had done that, I would have BECOME they omega.
My life would have been very different, if not OVER very quicky.
An omega takes the worst abuse of a pack. You'll always identify an omega as the most timidly shy, and hesitant. An omega also carries the most scars, because they are the "court gestures and stress outlet" of a pack. Which would have been me, if i had not learned fast from experience.
THAT is why I don't submit without it being EARNED.
Because it's also a part of my personality.
WHY do I find it extremely difficult to bond to a man?
Because the bar was set. For care, benevolence, a free spirit, lack of aggression, self control, intelligence, leadership, genuine concern and attentiveness, but strength should a situation or circumstance call for it, without self doubt, and at peace with himself.
And most fail miserably.
I've been told by MANY Dominant men that I do not seem like a submissive at all.
Here is why.
When I've encountered "Dominant" men, here is what I've found.
The weak narcissistic damn near abusive omega, pea cocking and pretending.
OR
The fad / all kink no core bedroom toy. NOT what I'm looking for either.
I have spent 25 years having to be both the woman that I am, that strongly desires a capable leader, and my own damn Alpha due to a distinct lack of men who can fill that role.
I am tired. If you're capable, worthy, and willing to take over this responsibility, and you've earned your place to have it, through me knowing you're solidly fit for the role, and trustworthy in it, you will find a completely different woman than presented in this profile, with much gratitude, and a life long Thank God sigh of relief.
But I will not give that place to some egotistical bullshit omega.
What you'll find, once you've shown me that you're not that damn omega in a carefully crafted mask, is that this steel core melts away to a soft shell, I will gladly give over the responsibility of your place to you, with a trust well earned and well deserved, and spend my days happily free of the burden of filling both places in my life for myself, and settle happily and comfortably into the one that I am built for. But I can not and will not keep my self respect throwing this submission to a lesser man.
What I didn't expect was for you to understand this.
I know what i was taught, by living with them, and knowing them. Which is why I have a bit of bitterness to "alpha type" men (the narcissistic weak ones) and generally tend to mix like oil and water with them.
Because I was raised to seek out those personality traits that make a true alpha in a mate, and this, in my view, pretender bullshit leaves a sour taste in my mouth so to speak.
Side note - you understanding and being able to articulate that you get that its the moral core of a man that makes him an alpha, well, you've garnered my respect. YOU might not see it so much but as a woman, raised to seek those qualities, and presented these narcissistic weak men, well...... you're looking for strawberries and all you see is fish.
You get my drift."
It is true, that girls look to their fathers when deciding who to mate.
I bonded more with Max, who was very very close in personality to Kamots here, than I did my own father. I learned more from him about honor, and sacrifice, and love, and acceptance, and strength, and intimacy (not sexual intimacy, the intimacy of knowing another so well that you know them inside, in the moment, at a glance, you know what every look means, every facial tick, body movement, physical aspect of stance, etc means, says, and doesn't say.)
But I learned from my father as well, who had to hold the Alpha position in that pack or they would have turned on him, as many hybrids do with their owners. THAT is why you hear stories of people owning hybrids and being killed. Because a pack won't submit to a weak man who owns them just because he likes an exotic pet.
Being as it was that I was born and became a part of the family, what happens if my father does not teach me to deal with them on their terms? I'm small, weaker physically than they are, a toddler, and easily short work of full grown adult hybrids.
I'm a dead child, thats what.
So yes, the man in the conversation above is right. I don't make your typical submissive.
Because I was also taught that no self respecting alpha female will submit to a weak omega.
If I had done that, I would have BECOME they omega.
My life would have been very different, if not OVER very quicky.
An omega takes the worst abuse of a pack. You'll always identify an omega as the most timidly shy, and hesitant. An omega also carries the most scars, because they are the "court gestures and stress outlet" of a pack. Which would have been me, if i had not learned fast from experience.
THAT is why I don't submit without it being EARNED.
Because it's also a part of my personality.
WHY do I find it extremely difficult to bond to a man?
Because the bar was set. For care, benevolence, a free spirit, lack of aggression, self control, intelligence, leadership, genuine concern and attentiveness, but strength should a situation or circumstance call for it, without self doubt, and at peace with himself.
And most fail miserably.
I've been told by MANY Dominant men that I do not seem like a submissive at all.
Here is why.
When I've encountered "Dominant" men, here is what I've found.
The weak narcissistic damn near abusive omega, pea cocking and pretending.
OR
The fad / all kink no core bedroom toy. NOT what I'm looking for either.
I have spent 25 years having to be both the woman that I am, that strongly desires a capable leader, and my own damn Alpha due to a distinct lack of men who can fill that role.
I am tired. If you're capable, worthy, and willing to take over this responsibility, and you've earned your place to have it, through me knowing you're solidly fit for the role, and trustworthy in it, you will find a completely different woman than presented in this profile, with much gratitude, and a life long Thank God sigh of relief.
But I will not give that place to some egotistical bullshit omega.
What you'll find, once you've shown me that you're not that damn omega in a carefully crafted mask, is that this steel core melts away to a soft shell, I will gladly give over the responsibility of your place to you, with a trust well earned and well deserved, and spend my days happily free of the burden of filling both places in my life for myself, and settle happily and comfortably into the one that I am built for. But I can not and will not keep my self respect throwing this submission to a lesser man.
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